I just remembered what i wanted to write about.... So i'm having an argument with a friend. it wasn't really an argument where the two people involved are mad at eachother but they have different points of views and are trying to convince the other of their point of view.  my friend and i are doing this in front of another one of our friends who always becomes very withdrawn in arguments in which anything is debated (but then has no problem arguing with his girfriend all the time cause she makes him mad).  so after about a 2 hour long debate we reach "J's" house (whom i was having the debate with and "A" says "i don't see the point of arguing, it's not like you are going to convince eachother of your point of view" so i reply with "when you debate your goal shouldn't be to change the other persons point of view but to present yours in a concise way and then learn about theirs so you can better shape your view of whatever"  i strongly believe that but then i argue a lot so am i just bullheaded or is it very healthy to debate different points of view.  i mean you can't learn everything on your own and other people can help you tremendously in your personal development. no?